This is the second time John Campbell has interviewed Prof Robert Clancy. The first time was back in January 2022 and was the most informative clip Campbell has ever done. This one is almost just as good. No one explains immunology better than Robert. This is not surprising given he has been one of Australia’s leading immunologists over the last five decades. His credibility is further enhanced by the fact he is retired and doesn’t have to suck the tit of big pharmaceuticals, unlike most of the